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    16-17 year olds having to pay tax?

    Basically the script is, the mother phoned the docs for some results/info on my (just turned) 17yr old brother. They said they couldn't release info to her, only to him. She kicked off & they said he needs to call

    Gets onto the topic of work & she tells them he's 8am - 7pm Monday-Saturday. They start to get funny spouting that it's illegal.

    My dad kicks off at my mother for volunteering too much info & they get onto the topic of taxes. My mother tells him he doesn't pay tax & my dad says that's ball-ox.

    After a bit of google searching, i'm asking here, because i just keep getting those irritating Yahoo Q+A sessions where people pass info like they know what they're talking about, when clearly they don't.



    He's an apprentice. He goes to college on a MOnday & then he works Tues-Sat. They only have to pay him something like £90.01 or £95.01 or whatever it is, but he's actually coming out with about £180 per week. He pays National Insurance which is around £10/week at a guess.

    But no deductions are under PAYE.


    My dad reckons he's going to get majorly funked later on when he does come to pay tax & that it should get sorted out now.



    So, should he be paying, or not? If so, why isn't it auto taken out of his wage?

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    By law if he earns over the personal allowance which is 6435 (for 08-09 tax year(April to April)) then he must pay tax, age doesnt have a say in the matter.
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    So he's not paying tax because he's not earned that level in this tax year then?

    IIRC, isn't there some calculation to break it down into weekly earnings & such like?
    To explain:
    You don't start paying tax once you've earned 6435. There's some calculation in there so you pay each time you're paid (weekly for us).

    By my rough workings, he wont earn enough to be taxed this tax year then. He started in August. At approx 180 per week, he should only get 5760 - not enough to be taxed then.

    So will he only be taxed next tax year? If so, is he going to get bent over then or what?

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    Irrelevant if he's in full time education, i.e a ma or yts, no tax due.
    N.b. any opinitons expressed above should be ignored and considered 'ramblings', under no circumstances should they be relied upon...

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    Roughly speaking he can earn £134 a week before getting taxed... if he earns over that he should be getting taxed on a weekly basis regardless of age.

    I had this arguement with the tax office when i was at college and was earning a similar amount (just shy of £10k a year) and ended up having to pay almost £300 at the end of the year but they just put it into the next years tax code.

    I'd reccomend getting some advice from the tax office as apprenticships may be different...
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    He's not - read the top post.

    He will be paying Tax - alternativly look at a pay slip?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme647 View Post
    Irrelevant if he's in full time education, i.e a ma or yts, no tax due.
    This fella has it spot on.

    Source: I used to deal with recruitment and payroll.
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    Is an apprenticeship considered full time education then? I figured with him being at college only 1 day per week & work Tues-Sat, then that's only part time education. Or do they [legally "they"] see the Tues-Sat as his education also?

    Had a look at his payslip just now. His code is 647L.

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    647L is the new 603L for this year (the standard under 65 low earner one), he'll be able to earn upto but not above £6,475 with zero tax.

    You may need to get him to review his education status with the IR, however i could be wrong and that might just be the right tax code anyway.
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    Its law - i work for the tax office myself, you pay tax if you earn over the personal allowance... end of.

    Im in full time education at uni does that mean i dont need to pay tax? no.
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