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    Question Traction control faulty, tampered or cr*p?

    'ello

    i have a 2001 turbo edition coupe, as far as i know it has TC and not ESP.

    now, if the road is a bit slippy, i can apply the accelerator (not full whack even) and the wheels will spin up, at this point the little amber traction control light flashes, but there is no such traction control! it doesnt cut the power or anything.

    ultimately all i got is a "your wheels are spinning" light on the dash

    i'm assuming it's not working, unless it's really pretty useless? another thing, is that since the card had a dual exit S/S system when i bought it, that perhaps someone has played with it and somehow disabled the traction control?

    it doesnt have a button for it....is this the same behavior as when a button is fitted and the TC is disabled?

    any places to look for tampering?

    any help apprciated! cheers!

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    Yep, thats what my dads coupe turbo does.
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    When the lights flashing the traction control is already doing its stuff and cutting power slightly to stop wheel spin
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    so the TC is kinda "mild" then?

    people describe it here as almost like a engine cut-out.

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    MK 4 TC has what's call "2 way intervention" - it works by simultaneously applying the brakes and cutting the throttle.

    So in normal (moving) driving it's not that noticable, unlike the the one way intervention in days of yore, which just dumped the throttle - not a good thing is you happen to be chucking it round a corner at the time

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    okay, sounds fair enough.

    so, just to satisfy my curiosity, if one was to have a TC switch installed (which i do not), what's the behaviour of the dashboard warning light?

    is it on all the time? or does it still stay off and flash when it would be working? or does it simply not light up at all?

    PS - should the seat-belt warning light work on the coupe? i noticed it's there but i've never seen it light up...even when i first switch the ignition on.

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    With a switch - it's just the same.

    light off - TC on
    light flashing - TC working

    But you will have the option to turn the TC off (light on).

    Confused?? That's probably the reason why VX stopped fitting switches as standard, as people thought it was on when infact it was off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ffoeg

    unlike the the one way intervention in days of yore, which just dumped the throttle - not a good thing is you happen to be chucking it round a corner at the time
    I remember those days , it was definatly dangerous as it cut all the air into the engine
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    The TC in my car is pretty effective, only on some really slippery roads and under seriously agressive driving will it dump throttle and brake. Works pretty like a LSD on emerging from a slippery junction. Then again, I have pretty good tyres and a heavy engine, so front end grip isn't an issue.

    Mine will also stop understeer, say I'm going round a sweeping bend a bit vigorously and the front starts to let go, the TC light comes on and it'll brake (or whatever) until the understeer stops. It's quite remarkable. I'm assuming that means is have ESP?
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    in my 2002 1.8 the tc is only effective in certain situations, the wheels will easily spin from pulling off, and therefore i imagine more so with the higher powered turbo mentioned earlier. however I find it is most effective, say on a roundabout where it will completely cut power once on the limit (back end traction), the first time it happened to me, i actually thought my car had died until it finishes its business and power resumes.
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