Their surprisingly quick... my mates just bought a J reg "Redtop" producing around 160ish bhp with a filter and magnex exhaust etc ... he wanted a go against my Turb' so I gave in to temptation ... and yes I was quicker but the road wasnt long enough to overtake as a roundabout was aproaching very quickly.

Nippy cars those, a helluva lot quicker than a mk3 Golf GTI 16v!