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    Using Mobile Phone Whilst Filling Up

    Re previous post on above. This may educate you.

    The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.

    In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.

    In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.

    And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.

    You should know that:

    Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat, etc.

    Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e., solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.

    Another related topic for safe refueling regarding static electricity causing fires at gas pumps...please pass on.

    Hopefully, most of you have heard that it's unsafe to smoke or use your cell phone while pumping gas. Now there's another safety warning you should know about concerning static electricity. Below is an email from Pat Cabiling who works at Chevron Texaco's Richmond Refinery.

    To sum it up, here are the:

    Four Rules for Safe Refueling

    1) Turn off engine
    2) Don't smoke
    3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle AND turn it off
    4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling

    Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity" at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires. His results were very surprising:

    1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.

    2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.

    3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.

    4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.

    5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
    6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.

    7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.

    Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began.

    Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle during filling.

    If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

    As mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to

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    by going to................................?

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    I'd heard all this mobile phone/static business is absolute b****x and the real reason that garages don't like them being used is that they interfere with the pump electronics. I have to say this sounds far more likely than huge explosions occuring...

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    I suppose i don't really believe in it, but its sometimes better to be safe than sorry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanW
    I'd heard all this mobile phone/static business is absolute b****x and the real reason that garages don't like them being used is that they interfere with the pump electronics. I have to say this sounds far more likely than huge explosions occuring...

    Jonathan
    Thats seems highly unlikely to me. We're taught about this as part of our fire training.

    Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes - Thats also partly untrue because the liquid itself isn't flammable as Lightning Coupe pointed out earlier. Its the vapour that will ignite.
    MINXY BUTLER-HENDERSON

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    The statment would have you belive that any explosion or ignition was localised to the position of the mobile phone, when in reality if there was enough vapour to combust by someones head it would do more that just cause burns to the face, the hole damn place would have probably gone up. Like previously mentioned theres more chance of the altornator bushes of a passing motor causing an explosion than a phone. And what about the electronic solenoid that opens my fuel cap????

    Dont get me wrong Im not endorsing the use of mobiles in fuel stations, They are an unessesary risk you would be stupid to take, but the "case studies" above seem somewhat fabricated to suit the cause. Sadam Husane was capable off launching a major attack within 45 minutes wasent he? well wasent he? errrrrrr NO.

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    ONly way to find out is if i got to the petrol station fill my car up wilst on the phone , fag in my mouth, engine runing, in a shell suit with rubber bottomed shoes, with a pocket full of batteries, while messing about in the car.

    If I come back golden brown, with singined eyebrows, and bubble paint work then its true.

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