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    steering/tyre problems, any ideas?

    hey looking for some help. have an 02 mk4 5door 1.6 astra and needed new tyres due to puncture, dont have any alloys (yet), so its just standard VX wheel size. so got a brank new Dunlop tyre for the damaged one. and since front tread was going down decided to swap the front two tyres with the backs. so at the moment there is now two brand new tyres on the front ( a continental and a Dunlop) and on back 2 standard budget tyres.

    The tyre garage said even though the front tyres are differnt makes as it should be on as the treat type is the same 'H' layout. But every since the new tyres been put on the car veers to the right when the steering wheel is put in the straight (normal) position. So am having to tilt steering wheel left a bit to avoid moving right. Does anyone have any ideas what problem could be?

    Car has alread been back and the wheels have been balanced, and tracking has been done. Also wheels on front have have been swapped left to right to try and remedy. Have let it done 300miles to see if they would wear in but it still veers right. its very annoying (esp on motorway) just wondering if anyone could help before I take it back to tyre centre again.

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    Me too

    I had this problem, the issue with me was that the garage that I took the car to said that they had done the tracking but really they had not!

    So when I took it to Quik Fit they told me that it was way out on one side.

    My advice if you havene't already, take it to Quik Fit, cos there the best.

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    sounds like your tracking take it back to the garage and ask them to have a look

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    My car does something similar, I recently got five brand new tyres on my alloys ( I have a spare alloy) but as soon as the tyres went on my car pulls to the left as soon as I take my haned off the wheel, I thought it might have been a fault with one of the tyres so I put on my spare alloy only to find that my car now pulls to the right instead. I got it tracked and it has made absolutely no difference. I put back on the original alloy and it pulls back left again. I brought it back to be retracked but they said my tracking is 100 percent. Make sense of that if ya can...
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    The natural camber effect on any road in the UK will cause your car to pull to the left slightly to allow surface water to run off naturally but it shouldn't be as sever as you're making out. Have had similar problems with my Rover before but I found changing bushes and other suspension components solved it (Due to age mainly). Have you had the car Laser tracked or was it the good old spotty 17 year old 'Brake Specialist' at Kwik-Fit using the lamps? Not exactly the most accurate piece of kit in the world

    You got any other symptoms... Vibrating steering wheel whilst driving/braking, vibrating brake pedal etc? These problems are annoying to find but 99% of the time it turns out to be something really stupid and small.

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    Weird issue...

    I have a 2002 Astra SXi 1.6 16V, I had new tires put on just the front.
    Now the tracking and balancing has been done FIVE times! by both Vauxhall, Kwik Fit and the tire place, each time getting worse or slightly better. At the momment it feels unstable and the steering wheel shakes at about 70 worse at 80, then gets better the faster you go.

    Im not sure what to next!

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    Re: Weird issue...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravencs
    At the momment it feels unstable and the steering wheel shakes at about 70 worse at 80, then gets better the faster you go.

    If you've got a vibration whilst driving it's usually down to a bad track and balance combination but if it's something that tends to increase with speed I'd start looking at other possible causes:

    What brand of tyre have you got on Raven?
    To be honest, they're the most important part of your car so you really shouldn't skimp on quality here - When I replaced my factory fitted Continentals I went for some cheap crudy directional "Monza Couriers" which I was told were made by Pirelli but I couldn't find that name stamped anywhere. Anyway, after these were fitted the car would feel like it was 'Floating' on the tyre walls and if I took a corner too fast, the rear end would have a tendancy to step out of line... OK, it's fun when you're trying to impress your 15 year old girlfriend handbraking in Tesco's but not when you're doing 75mph down the M6. I soon had them taken off and i'm now running Continentals again... smooth as now

    What are your rear tyres like?
    It may sound stupid but if your rear tyres are worn it can cause vibration to occur and travel through the car.

    What are your brakes like?
    Sticking callipers cause the un-necesarry heating of your discs and pads causing premature wear and warping. A warped disc can cause wobble on your steering wheel whilst driving and when applying the brake (Look for a juddering foot brake pedal when braking gently... any harder and that will be your ABS ).

    Wheel bearings, bushes and bent/worn suspension components/links are other things that could be contributing but on a 2002 car I think it would be safe to rule them out... for now at least :?

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    Wheel Wobble

    Orignal continentals on the back, BF Goodrich on the fronts.
    It does not get worse with more speed, it gets a little better. 75-80 is the worse. If it take my hands off the wheel its shaking like mad!

    Could there be damage to the wheels? Why does it only happen at that speed?!

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    Have you cheked the tyre pressures?

    if there is a difference this might be part of the cause.

    if not def re check the tracking, have you noticed any uneven tyre wear since, that will depend on the millage you have done, if their scrubbing hard on one side more than the other your either going too fast round roundabouts (called round these parts MK syndrome) or your tracking is out.

    shed

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    I agree with Shed... Check pressures first (Vauxhall quotes figures Front - 32psi, Rear 28psi) and then take each road wheel off and check for any signs of "MK Syndrome"

    If all is well with the above and it still likes to shake I'd start looking at brake discs and the possibility of a sticking calliper. Mine has a little wobble at 75 but I know my tracking is slightly out which i'm not gonna bother getting sorted as i'm changing all four discs and fitting new pads at the end of Feb so i'll do it after that.

    Have you noticed any feedback on the brake pedal? Try braking firmly (But not enough to cause any danger to yourself, other road users or enough to make the wheels lock/ABS kick in) and see if you can feel the brake pedal pulsing or vibrating. IF it does, then you've got brake problems which is no doubt the cause of your wobble. A bent road wheel could also be the cause but I think you'd find that if it was, the wobble wouldn't get better but worse the faster you travel.

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