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Thread: Focus 2.0 16v ST170 vs Astra 1.8 16v SRI (125bhp)

  
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    Focus 2.0 16v ST170 vs Astra 1.8 16v SRI (125bhp)

    Just wondered i know the focus would win but would the astra keep up within spitting distance ?

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    if you can spit 75 metres over a quater mile strip from a standing start
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    To be fair the ST170 is a decent enough car BUT the performance over a 1/4 mile is meant to be crap..as we know this is were a car satnds out from the crowd..

    I'd have one and been tempted by a black one in my local ford dealer though.My mate has a grey one and i must admit the power delivery is very smooth and is well distributed.It just don't last the distance unfortunately.

    But in answer to your question.Nope.

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    when i was looking into getting my 1.8 16v astra i was looking at the focus (although i couldnt afford the ST170) i noticed the 0-60 time of the ST170 wasnt that much faster than the astra

    but i would still say it would kick the astras ass on the 1/4 mile
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    Got this off quarter mile rivals, although had to guess st170 as not listed.

    bhp 0-60 1/4 Mile
    Ford Focus 1.8 114 9.5 17.1
    Ford Focus 2.0 130 9.0 17.0
    Ford Focus ST170 170 7.9 16.5? (? = Guess)
    Ford Focus RS 212 6.3 15.8
    VX Astra 1.8Conv 123 10.6 17.8
    VX Astra Coup2.2 147 8.3 16.4
    VX Astra 888 189 7.1 15.5
    VX Astra 2.0sri 134 8.4 16.5
    VX Astra 1.8 Sri 115 9.0? 17.0? (? = Guess)
    VX Astra 2.0GSI 197 6.6 15.2


    Excerpt from somewhere on the engine :-

    Unfortunately, it lacks a great heart. No matter what the spec. suggest, the Zetec engine still feels relatively reluctant. From as early as idle you can feel some roughness, this does not die throughout the range. While Honda’s i-VTEC is turbine smooth and becomes explosive at above 6000rpm - think about 200hp at 7400rpm, while Renault Clio RS feels torquey all the time, the Zetec lacks both real power and eagerness. Moreover, being heavier than rivals (1208kg for ST170 or 1245kg for SVT Focus, versus 1200kg for Civic Type R and 1060kg for Clio RS), no wonder Car And Driver found it accelerated from 0-60 mph in 7.8 seconds, some 1.1 seconds slower than Type R. By the time it reached 100mph, it was already a massive 6.4 seconds behind ! in fact, the magazine found a 160hp Civic Si actually matches the Focus.

    Performance deficit is also due to inadequate gear ratio - the first is still too high, probably because the compact gearbox cannot accommodate a larger cog. Nevertheless, shift quality is as good as Honda’s, with slick action and short throws.

    Given a better engine, Focus ST170 and SVT Focus would have been world-beating. But until now it is only the best handling and riding hot hatch in the world. Civic Type R is still the overall winner.

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    That quarter mile rival site is a complete joke.

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    Driven one - and it would kill the astra tbh.

    Very nice drive too.

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    Got to say I had a race with one on the M1 when going to max power weekender earlier this year, wasnt impressed with the st170, naturally was faster than my 1.8 in a straight line but it didnt get as far away as what expected, especially upto 110, after that though it did start to pull alot quicker.

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    yeah def a lot faster than a 1.8 astra. sadly..... lol. but then more expensive to insure and really isnt in the same 'bracket' as the 1.8
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