View Full Version : Have an Astra Turbo 03 Aussie Model (Z20LET Engine) Need some Experts Advice
AstraTurbo03
26-06-2007, 04:51
Hi guys, just wondering what is your recommendation for my car to help it go a bit faster :D. I saved up a bit of money lately, not to much so I don't want to go overboard with it trying to make it go faster, I still want it to be reliable and make it as close to stock as possible.
So far this is what I have:
Custom FMI, Vectra intake system with K&N Panel filter and a Reflash (best one we can get from here, but I think yours maybe better)
I was thinking about getting a New Exhaust, maybe 2 3/4 or 2 1/2 inch from the dump pipe back and a new dump pipe. A Better Intake system and recently looking at getting a VXR Turbo. Someone said this can just bolt straight on and don't need anything else for it, True ?
Out of these would you say get the VXR Turbo, and if I were to get this would I need a New Reflash ? or maybe something else first ?
All and any advice I would love to hear, as I know you's have alot more of these cars over there and do plenty more to them then we do hehe.
Would love to hear what you's think :smile:
vxr turbo would go straight on but without software but you will gain nothing from it i would see if you can find someone that can map it first then put the turbo on
AstraTurbo03
27-06-2007, 01:41
Thanks
sri turbo number 500 (http://www.astraownersclub.com/vb/member.php?u=6358)
any idea on what the best software is to put on ?
I have the Flash kit over here but would just need the software from somewhere.
C'mon guys, I know you's have done some really good things to your cars, don't be shy :D Any other ideas from people they want to share if it's not any of the above I've mentioned or just want to give some much needed advice ;) ?
if i was you mate i would send your ecu over her get the software put on at either regal or courtenay in the meantime fit vxr turbo ,afm ,injectors exhaust system then off you go 290 bhp i think
Its just EDS software, distributed from Germany, no reason to send your ECU to regal when you could get the map sent to an Aussie tuner for 1/4 the price.
AstraTurbo03
28-06-2007, 03:47
Well I was thinking either get an exhaust from Dump pipe back which would cost about $1600 custom made Australia dollars or get the VXR Turbo, which I hear I can get shipped for $900 total AU Dollars.
And someone told me that's all I would really need as it just bolts right on.
But you's are saying without a good reflash it wouldn't make much of a difference right ?
If so would anyone be able to tell me what the best remap would be for the VXR turbo how much it would be around and tell me someone who might do it for me ?
What would give me the most benefit out of these 2 ? I would think the turbo would but long as I don't need much else, long as it just does bolt straight on :)
the vxr turbo is a simple bolt on and go.i dont know what software youve got over ther but with a remap and no custom exhaust you would probably see gains of about 270bhp that is with software we use. and again its your choice who remaps it for you
theblueraven
30-06-2007, 11:32
remapping here in australia is not that easy, very few people will actually load a map onto your car that isnt theirs. Also its not that easy to buy a map, when myself and a few others tried too, the figure was about 2000pounds-$5000 per map (because basically you have to buy a license to use the map over and over again before they send it to you), and even then only a couple places were willing to do it, almost all of them just want us to send the ecu to them so they can bench flash it (which takes less than 5 mins) and even then it would be a generic map and not tuned for the specific car. (not to mention 50 quid each way in postage).
Its the only reason i had to buy a piggyback ecu.
im quite happy with the remap i got and im pretty sure astraturbo03 yours is the same. pulls pretty hard and all i have got done is FMIC, 3inch pre-cat, 2.5inch exhaust and an apexi pod filter(and a remap). The next logical step for me is to find somewhere that will dyno tune my car after i install a vxr turbo and inj.
dannysport18
01-07-2007, 01:22
what you could look into is BSR LMF are getting them in for the Z20LET'S soon
a vid is hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz8CMRparfs
http://www.bsrab.se/products/ppc/programing/
original Stage 1 power:201Hp torque:282Nm
remap power:240Hp torque:346Nm
Average power increase 33Hp 20.4%
Measured by BSR.
I have used a saab areo with the BSR system an it dose work so you can put it back to std any time you want about 4 mins to remap it :)
they did the engine in the Koenigsegg CCXR
montyfox
01-07-2007, 01:29
That BSR stuff does seem good and the companiies credentials seem to come upto scratch.
I was having a look around on the web today and only caught a glimpse of a listing for the 200Bhp LET, taking it to 230/240bhp. they seem to do more for the 175Bhp LEL engine, taking this to the the same as the figures aforementioned :confused:
Ican no longer find where I saw the LET details :rolleyes: but i would want more than 230/240Bhp anyway but they do do different stage for other VX engines dependant on what other kit you have fitted.
aint the LEL engine just restricted on its map so it will be able to be tunned the same as the other easily?
montyfox
01-07-2007, 01:50
aint the LEL engine just restricted on its map so it will be able to be tunned the same as the other easily?
Really not sure TBH, so many conflicting views on this but persoanlly I believe they are one and the same, near as dammit.
Other will say it is a SAAB developed engine, and why not, they did develop the worlds first commercially available mainstream car.
I have heard from some learned fellow thta it is indeed just the software with the LEL running version 3201 and the LET running version 3202 :confused:
dannysport18
01-07-2007, 01:58
give them a bit of time as they have just started doing the Z20let's
No one has one yet about 9 days away till the turn up in the UK
the good thing is you can update it at home not post the ECU to regal or spend a day driving to them an back
dannysport18
01-07-2007, 02:01
Z20let from BSR
http://www.bsrab.se/products/n3124/
montyfox
01-07-2007, 02:22
Z20let from BSR
http://www.bsrab.se/products/n3124/
Cheers, I just could not find it again :rolleyes:
I don't think 240bhp is going to be enough for me though :(
I'll have to try and contact then and see what else they can do (amongst other remap options)
dannysport18
01-07-2007, 02:27
of you ask steve at LMF he will know
i also want a bit more then 240bhp
but i know they will have
P1
P2
P3
out in time an its free for updates not like other tuners
Another thing you guys could try in Aus is Bluefin. Thorney motor sport is doing these now. he can preload it with maps or you can phone up and tell him your mods and he can email you the maps for you to load onto the bluefin then load onto your car. you can return it to standard at anytime and can upgrade the map when you put more mods on.
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Bluefin.shtml
dannysport18
01-07-2007, 12:47
the blue fin is only for the VXR at the mo
daaaaavek
01-07-2007, 14:19
There is a member of Opelaus in Melbourne that should be able to sort you out with a re-map for about $400 (roughly) and from all reports it's *well* worth getting even on a stock Z20LET.
There is a member of Opelaus in Melbourne that should be able to sort you out with a re-map for about $400 (roughly) and from all reports it's *well* worth getting even on a stock Z20LET.
what he said:D
montyfox
02-07-2007, 22:48
the blue fin is only for the VXR at the mo
And having spoke to a gut at Thorney's there are no plans to do a bluefin for the ZLET at all, to much in the way of remaps already available :(
dannysport18
02-07-2007, 22:54
i think they will lose out to sales hear to BSR an the people doing Vauxhall BSR stuff is LMF
montyfox
02-07-2007, 22:57
i think they will lose out to sales hear to BSR an the people doing Vauxhall BSR stuff is LMF
I pointed out that a ZLET bluefin could be highly lucrative and would be certain to generate alot of interest and probably a fair few sales on this forum alone but nope, they ain't doing one :crying:
dannysport18
02-07-2007, 23:06
I pointed out that a ZLET bluefin could be highly lucrative and would be certain to generate alot of interest and probably a fair few sales on this forum alone but nope, they ain't doing one :crying:
see the people that make blue fin said to me they will be doing it in time
first they have done the VXR's a lot more z20lets about if you ask me
AstraTurbo03
03-07-2007, 04:45
And incase some of you guys didn't know I already have a remap for my current turbo Daaaavek and hott4u, or are you's saying it's for the VXR Turbo ?
That BSR thing does sound good. I watched the video and read the info about it. But correct me if I'm wrong, it's only a remap for the current Turbo we already have on our car right with future upgrades available for the internet ?
Because if that's right, for the price, I would rather buy the VXR turbo, and if worse comes to worse use my current remap on the VXR turbo, if I can't get a remap for it. Because the VXR Turbo supposed to be alot better then our current one and has more potential, right ? PLus, would work out cheaper to.
dannysport18
03-07-2007, 09:57
the VXR turbo is only worth fitting when your one goes tits up mate its about 0.5% better then the std Z20let turbo you can run the VXR turbo fine with your map you have at the mo
auzvectra
09-07-2007, 12:37
yeah dave and gav, he has the remap, he just doesnt have my upgrade to it ;).
and he has the same cooler as you also gav.
mine is running basically the same map as yours with the gt28rs turbo, although i'm still running low boost until i get onto the dyno to touch it up if it needs it, it makes a ridiculous increase by itself, but as i have told you, the vxr is better then stock, but it is only good for an easy install, you would be much better with a gt25r at the least.